ne ker e, ne kurtan e
Mane
biguhêrene ker e, ne kurtan e (cureyê peyvê?)
Etîmolojî
biguhêreJi ne + ker + e + ne + kurtan + e
Werger
biguhêre- Îngilîzî: neither donkey, nor saddle → en, (a dismissive remark about a pair of incompetent people, eg a father and his son, or two friends), timewasters → en, about as useful as a chocolate teapot → en